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Maureen Eames won an army of fans after telling the BBC she did not 'give a sod' about coronavirus rules

Whitty, Vallance et al. are stuck in a psychological trap. In order to do the right thing and open the country up again, they'd need to admit to themselves that they stole seven months of everyone's lives, wrecked the economy for a decade and destroyed the jobs, businesses, relationships and retirement plans for millions. That's too much of a burden for anyone to take on voluntarily and so they must be relieved of their positions.

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